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I haven’t been to Montréal in a while but I love it there. It has a very “old euro-city” feel to it. I’m not up-to-date on the latest you and your family can do there but there are number of suggestions on their tourism site.

The Labyrinth Adventure looks like it could be fun.

I have no advice for you on any of these places as I have only been to NYC (and a short visit at that). I would love to hear what you do and if you like Montréal as Tom, Sofia and I are thinking about going there this autumn.

I don't think you will have any problems making this summer's holiday better than last summer's :)

Ahh...Philly. Well, you have to see the Liberty Bell...and a visit to the art museum to pretend your Rocky is always fun too! Besides, the art museum has some beautiful exhibits, if you are into that kind of thing. South Street-Gino's BEST cheesesteak, hands down. I drove 2 hours to go there during my pregnancy with my daughter because my craving was out-of-control. Another good place to eat on Broad Street(right in the center of the city), great Italian resturant...don't know the name of it, but it's the only one on Broad. Valley Forge is a fun trip, a few minutes outside of the city. I know there's a pretty fun waterpark in Philly too...I will research and get back to you on that one. I'd say party on South St. too(ahhh, back in my college days, it was a blast...well, my first rip to college), but nix that, since you'll be with kids.

New York: You guys are book people, right? Go to the Strand, an awesome bookstore that has probably any book you guys could want. There are new and used books and as a bonus, sometimes you can find ARCs (the books they send to reviewers) so you can buy a book sometimes months before it comes out. :)

It's at 12th Street and Broadway. www.strandbooks.com

Also, depending on when you're there, you can get tickets to some Broadway plays at the half price ticket booth at Times Square. (If you guys wanted to see a play while you're there, that's probably the way to go.) It's same-day, though, and the lines can be pretty long.

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New York: Natural History Museum, which is at one end of Central Park, so you can experience that, too. It is huge, but there's lots of cool stuff inside -- Belvedere Castle, both the Central Park Zoo and the Children's Zoo, the carousel, Sheep's Meadow, etc. And the Metropolitan Museum of Art is on the other end. You should probably check out FAO Schwartz. I'm sure Jesse and Libby would love it. Frozen hot chocolate at Serendipity. (Have you seen the movie? Same place.) Going to the top of the Empire State Building is pretty cool. Ground Zero. We had fun eating in Little Italy -- there are some great restaurants. I could go on and on. I love NY.

We were only in Boston for a day, but Cambridge is really nice. We had fun walking around Harvard and Harvard Yard and all that. Not sure if that's very fun for kids, though. We had lobster down by the harbor -- that was cool. We also visited the JFK Museum, which was very interesting, but again, not sure if the kids would like it.

You have DC covered and I haven't been to Montreal or Philly. What a fun trip!

What, your car breaking down in the middle of nowhere wasn't fun?

Being as I've never been to DC, Boston, Philadelphia, or Montreal, I am utterly worthless as far as giving advice. However, should you ever decide to head to southeastern Minnesota (*ahem*) I could recommend the Mall of America and/or the Spam Museum. And my house.

we took a roadtrip a few years back... mystic, CT; portland, ME; NY; boston; PA... other places, too. we had a good time.

of course i can't remember for the life of me EXACTLY what we did... but we had a good time. hehe...

ooh, have some pizza in NY for me, though. :P

have a great time :) sorry to be of absolutely no assistance. hehe.


If you like history of these great old towns, Boston has a fabulous walking tour lead by a guide in period clothing (I am SUCH a geek) that ends up in a nice lunchy/shoppingy place near the center of town.

From there are several cobblestone streets with little shops and resturaunts and nice people who are more than happy to tell you about the history of their little building.

Like eating a snack at a pub where the revolutionaries planned the attack on the English before the Tea Party. For the life of me I can not recall the name... Green rooster or something.

As for Philly, I agree with Mama-P. Gino's is to DIE for (I am a bit obsessive on my cheesesteaks. Gosh I miss home!)

You can always take pix at the LOVE statue, too.

Pyro-pixie and mama-p are smoking dope. Jim's at 3rd and South has the best cheesesteaks.

Liberty Bell, Constitution Center, Independence Hall -- good 1/2 to 3/4 day. The Franklin Institute is a really fun science museum for kids. The Rodin Musuem on the Ben Franklin Parkway has the best collection outside of Paris (though I don't know how much the kids would dig that...).

Go down into Little Italy in South Philly and walk around to find a place to eat. Just don't sit by the winda'....

Jen and Kelly both gave you excellent NYC suggestions. You'd love the Strand and Serendipity. I'd just add eat pizza and falafels (they're both cheap, yummy, and everywhere), and visit Grand Central Station (you probably will anyhow in the course of traveling thru) - it's a beautiful building and there's nothing like being in the middle of it all.

Boston - if the kids will go with it, walk the Liberty Trail (either guided or not guided) for some history. If you are baseball fans at all, you should go to Fenway and see the Red Sox (if they're in town and the tickets aren't outrageous). I liked visiting Harvard, but the kids may or may not be interested.


Spend less time in DC, and more time in Philly. Trust me; you won't regret it.
I went to Montreal last summer and I absolutely fell in love with it. It was sunny so we spent lots of time mooching round the harbour. We took a boat ride out round and it was beautiful. I seem to remember an enormous roller coaster as well, so that might be an option if you're into your thrill seeking. If not, sitting outside coffee shops is always a good option...

@ancora - i don't know, dc is pretty super with elementary aged kids

So when in the summer are you going on this trip? I ask not only because if the timing is right you and your kids could help me load my UHaul (ha!) but also because of thinking about what summer events will be afoot in these various cities in the different months. My brother lives in Montreal and is one of those Montrealers who is obsessed with the place, so I'll ask him what he'd do there with kids and let you know.
If you spend more than a day in the Philly area, one of our favorite places to visit is Valley Forge.

We enjoyed the underground city in Montreal (can't quite recall what it is called, but I think that is it). We also visited a religious site, but for the life of me, I can not remember it's name! It was up on a hill, I believe. It was quite interesting. I will try to figure out where it is.
St. Joseph's Oratory on Mont-Royal! That's the site. It was recommended by a friend who lives in rural Quebec (her daughter lives in Montreal).
My advice is to ask Steve and Janie they are the road warriors.
Thanks for the advice Steelie. I have bookmarked the tourism site and will go through it at my leisure. Yay! I'm excited. I'm hoping I will have plenty of oppurtunity to practice my French (such as it is) while I am there.

You are the best traveled person around! I am super surprised that you haven't been to the places mentioned (except NYC), you little globe trotter, you :)

I will blog about my experiences and you can see for yourself whether the places are worth a visit.

I am really into art, food and history so I'm sure I will do the Liberty Bell, the art museum, and eat cheesesteak. Thanks for the great advice!

We are definitely book people. Any used book store is like a magnet to me :)

We might catch a show too. I hear that Mary Poppins has most of the original London cast and I wanted to see that when I was in London but tickets were sold out.

Sounds like the stuff in and around Central Park could keep us busy for a long time. Thanks for telling me all this cool stuff -- I would never have known where to go otherwise.

Serendipity? We're there! I have seen it looking yummy in way too many movies to not check it out.

Thanks for mentioning Ground Zero. It hadn't occurred to me to visit. I don't want to feel like a crass tourist but I also want Jesse and Libby to feel the significance of what happened there.

Haha. I would so go to the Spam museum.

Here's where I confess that although Spam smells like cat food, I actually like it. A lot. What can I say in my defense? We lived in Hawaii for four years and they eat a lot of Spam; I developed a taste.

Pizza in NY? Check! Will do. I will eat lots of pizza for you. And some for Mia too.
Don't worry, I can out geek you any day :) I love those walking tours. That is certainly going on my list of things to do. Thanks for the advice!

Pyro-pixie and mama-p are smoking dope

Can I get some?

though I don't know how much the kids would dig that

Don't fret, I am raising little geeks. They would dig that very much indeed.

Thanks Steve! :)

Great advice Janette! Thanks! We are baseball fans, at least I am, but last time we went to a game (Chicago Cubs) the kids were ready to leave half way through.

They are, however, more than ready to do anything history related as a) they've been raised on museums and historical sites and b) I think they like to feel smart :)

I will take your advice and add another day onto Philly. Thanks :)

Sweet, a rollar coaster! I really do love them and the other day my son said he'd never been on one, which, WHAT? I know he has, he just doesn't remember it. I told him we would rectify that this summer.

Thanks for the great advice.

We'll be taking our trip for about the last three weeks of July. So where do you live that we'll be passing through? Of course, we'd love to help you load! Or at least stand around and talk and watch everyone else load up :)
Thanks for the recommendations Nicole! Two more places added to the list...
Yes, Janie already knows that she is my DC expert.

I actually wrote a long post last Friday, but it didn't take. But let me give you a couple of tips:

Getting around. You need to know about Philly Phlash. Will take you from Penn's Landing up to the Art Museum, with lots of stops along the way, for next to nothing. Google it.

Cheesesteak: You've heard about Jim's and Geno's (and perhaps Pat's). Tourist traps, all. If you want the best steak near to Independence Hall, try Sonny's. It's only a few blocks away between 2nd and 3rd and Market. There is the added advantage that there is a great

ice cream fountain just steps away. Not to mention a great used book store called Book Trader.

If you want the best, it's John's Roast Pork. You won't see a single tourist there, and you'll need directions. Suffice it to say it's won a James Beard award. And, as you might imagine, the roast pork is pretty decent as well. There is a cheesesteak contest going on right now on the local sportstalk station, and this is what the DJ running the contest wrote:

1. John’s Roast Pork, 14 East Snyder Avenue, South Philadelphia, 215-463-1951.
I love the smell of onions grilling in the morning. And that’s the best time to get to the classic and famous John’s Roast Pork, because it opens before 7 a.m. and closes down shortly after lunch.

This little shack of a place – nestled between train tracks and an abandoned building or two along Snyder Avenue – hardly needs our endorsement. It has been honored in recent times by Esquire and Gourmet magazines, named the best cheesesteak by the Inquirer’s Craig Laban a few years back and even won a snooty James Beard Foundation Award.

So, of course, we were skeptical. No place can be that good. But, tell you what – one whiff of the aroma wafting from John’s had us enticed. And one bite of the $7.76 cheesesteak, and we were in gastronomic heaven. This, my friends, is ecstasy on a toasted Carangi’s roll.

It’s about a foot long and a thing of beauty, as you unwrap the white paper surrounding it. Loads of molten sharp provolone oozed throughout every crevice of the sandwich. Top quality seasoned beef, sliced into ribbons. Onions that are sweet, while still retaining a little sting. The roll – crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside to hold the juices – even comes with some sesame seeds for flavor.

John’s has been around since 1930, and deserves to be recognized as a civic treasure. The day we went, the customers were a blend of cops and blue-collar guys and a couple of dark-suited attorneys debating a case as melted cheese dripped on their legal briefs. A great cross section of this city’s populace enjoying al fresco dining on a few picnic tables as the semis rumble through South Philly.

This is family-run operation, Momma Bucci and her sons, and everyone behind the counter and on the flat grill is gracious – in other words, they won’t holler if you screw up the ordering code.

I run these food hunts every year in order to tell you which places are the best. Folks, John’s Roast Pork, quite simply, makes the greatest cheesesteak I’ve ever had.


My mouth was watering as I looked at that menu! While tourist traps are usually okay with me we'll make sure that we visit John's for sure!
Let me make a correction to one of my Boston suggestions... It's Freedom Trail, not Liberty Trail (I make this mistake all the time for some reason).

Probably because they're synonomous...but either way it looks great and we'll do it.

Oh no! Does this mean we get one less day with the Banana Family in DC????
No, it just means I extend my trip :) I haven't even really thought about how long I'll be gone -- I just know I don't want to pay an arm and a leg to kennel the pups :)
Oh c'mon, Steve was so looking forward to visiting with the dogs too. ;-)
Are you going to be in Baltimore at all? DC is so close...and if you come in on a Saturday, you can go to Book Thing, which is even better than the Strand because the books are free. Yes, free. You can go in and take as many books as you want and keep them forever and it's all free.
We're in DC, and we're moving at the end of July, so we'll still be around when you're here. We would not, however, be able to live with ourselves if we accepted help lifting boxes from anyone supposed to be on vacation, so you will be barred from that activity.

Actually, although I'm not sure of the details, we'll be gone for a week in late July and might need a housesitter. So if you are into cheap digs on vacation, we might be your man. If the dates work out.


OK. A few ideas on things to see in Philadelphia that are quintisentially Philadelphian. The obscure museums:

1. Mutter Museum. How are you and the kindlings on the gross-out factor? If they like gross stuff, it's a must.

2. The Mummer Museum. Every New Year's Day, hundreds of blue collar men march down Broad Street in sequins, makeup and feathers. This museum is dedicated to that proposition.

3. The American Swedish Historical Museum. Did you know the Swedes were here before William Penn? This museum is dedicated to that history.

4. Civil War and Underground Railroad Museum of Philadelphia. Any Civil War buffs in the family? If so, the collection here is amazing.

5. University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology. One of the world's best museums of this genre. A major exhibition on evolution opens next month.

6. Rosenbach Museum and Library. You love books? You'll love this museum dedicated to books. Sendak exhibit opens next month. The permanent collection includes Joyce's manuscript for Ulysses, a first edition of Don Quixote, and Dylan Thomas's manuscript for Under the Milkwood.

7. The Barnes Foundation. A private museum set, the founder has his own theory of art. This leads to a fascination juxtopositon of pieces. Not to mention they have 181 Renoirs, 69 Cezannes, and 59 Matisses, among other things. You will need to reserve tickets to get in. Certainly not as comprehensive as the Philadelphia Museum of Art, but utterly fascinating. And not crowded, due to the admission policy.

8. National Liberty Museum. Do you like glass sculpture. You'll love this place then. A block away from Independence Hall.

These are just some of the places you might not know about. Of course, the Philadelphia Museum of Art is spectacular, as is the Rodin museum. and the Franklin Institute, with its Omnitheater, is very popular for kids.

I can only eat it in certain contexts. I think I need to spend more time in Hawaii so that I can develop a full appreciation for it.